![]() I always carry extra machine screws in case I loose one (never happened), and I always have a tool to tighten the screws before a trip, and througout the trip when opportunities arise, just to be cautions - but I have never had a situation where I lost a screw, or where a screw was loose. I can think of NO reason that they are a bad option for backcountry skiing. They are also significantly stronger than a normal wood screw and epoxy set up that most bindings are mounted with - I cannot remember the exact difference in terms of pull-out-force required, but it was on the order of about 1.25 times the conventiional wood screw binding set up. I personanly have three pairs of skis, a pair of tele bindings and a pair of AT bindings and have all three pairs of skis drilled for both sets of bindings so I can swap them back and forth (essentially six pairs of skis for the cost of three fully rigged pairs).īeyond the flexibility of changing the bindings out, they pack smaller when you remove the bindings if you are going to travel with them. Quiver Killers are a great setup if you have a signle set of bindings and want to swap them around. If you are good with tools, you could for sure do it yourself, time wise it just worked for me to have them do it. I would highly reccomend at least calling them up, but I would also say it would be worth the drive up there. I think it was $100 per paio of skis, and they were perfect and ensured that everything worked out perfectly. Just get those.Įdit to add: with bindings like the shift and tecton the added benefit of a deadicated resort/touring binding is reduced significantly.I got mine professionally installed by the guys at Backcountry Essentials in Bellingham. You work in a shop, skis and bindings are cheap. In the morning you’ll be too hungover/tired/whatever to do it, and now your friends are waiting for you or you brought the wrong set up. You will undoubtably forget to do this multiple nights because you’re tired, customers are shit heads, your third girlfriend this month just broke up with you, you didn’t get lunch, you want to the bar, you forgot your skis/bindings/whatever, or you told yourself you’ll do it in the morning. You have to remember to change the screws the day/night before. Alpine binders for resort skiing and tech for tours. I would change the binders in the shop the day before. Can you elaborate on the difficulty of use? I can see it being annoying when your trying to change bindings after your tour ascent. I am aware that the resale value if gonna be shit but I wouldnt plan on selling my skis so I am not worried about that. SupersquidI work at a ski shop so installing them is very similar to installing helicoils. Also, always use the locktite dampening stuff. Binding freedom has a full list of bindings with required screw lengths/types and you can buy them all through their online shop. They have a knurled area on bottom of head to better lock binding in place. Bindings screws heads are a match for ski binding screws just threads are 5mm S.S. I had a company here that only sells screws for western WA confirm it by visual inspection. My presumption looking at Quivers screw is that they are off the shelf stainless. SLIDEWRIGHT.COM has good info on the proper screw sizes. WahsegaWas adjusting length for my son to try the Liberty ski's. SupersquidI assume you needed to change binding length because you had a different boot or friend with a different boot was using the ski? Or was this just when you needed to change bindings? What combination of binders are you using? I assume you needed to change binding length because you had a different boot or friend with a different boot was using the ski? Or was this just when you needed to change bindings? What combination of binders are you using?Īlso, what screw heads? do you need to use a different screw in the quivers than the screws that come with your bindings from the factory? So check the clearances before installing if you want to adjust the binding length. However Binding Freedom uses Posi Drive screws whose heads match what regular screws came with your bindings: flat head, small head, or low head screw. This small added head height blocked the binding from moving. ![]() The cause was that Quivers use a pan head screw to install the bindings. However this weekend when I went to adjust the rear binding I couldn't. ![]() I like Quiver better then Binding Freedom as the slot in Freedom's for the screwdriver has the potential to let water in of not sealed with epoxy. WahsegaI used Quiver Killers in 3 skis: 4FRNT's Click and Switchblade, and Liberty Variant 87. ![]()
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